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"I would have declined a second chance to form the government"

Saibal Das
India Today
May 10, 1999


    Title: "I would have declined a second chance to form the government"
    Author: Saibal Das
    Publication: India Today
    Date: May 10, 1999 
    
    During the campaign for the last general elections, Atal Bihari
    Vajpayee had made it amply clear that he would not fight another
    election. Thirteen months down the line, he has changed his mind. Last
    week, in a 90-minute interview with Editor PRABHU CHAWLA, the prime
    minister appeared to relish the prospects of another campaign. The
    confidence was understandable considering the slender margin of his
    government's defeat and the tawdry efforts of the opposition to cobble
    together a government that ultimately failed.
    
    Q: The obvious question first. When It was clear that the others
    didn't have the numbers they claimed, why didn't you stake a claim a
    second time?
    
    A: Frankly speaking, we didn't have the numbers. Ganit hamare virudh
    tha (The arithmetic was against us). We had 269 votes, the opposition
    270.
    
    Q: Did you try to add to your numbers?
    
    A: We tried our best to carry others with us. But there were few who
    could be approached. One thing you must concede is that 19 members
    left us but we lost by only one vote. Those who were with us, remained
    with us during the vote and after the vote. Those who voted with the
    Congress parted company later.
    
    Q: So was It the failure of your managers to get just that extra vote
    to save your government?
    
    A: What purpose would it have served? Only a temporary reprieve for a
    few more months. You cannot provide good governance in such a
    situation.
    
    Q: If the President had given you a second chance to prove your
    majority, would you have accepted it?
    
    A: I would have declined the second chance to form the government. As
    you are aware, I didn't meet the President even once to stake my
    claim. But in this case the President himself came to the conclusion
    that we didn't have the numbers to provide a stable government. He
    advised us to dissolve the House.
    
    Q: Do you feel that the President was not as accommodating with your
    government as he has been with your predecessors?
    
    A: I had no problems with him during the past 14 months. But he
    definitely wants to be an active president. His role during the
    current crisis made that amply clear.
    
    Q: Does It mean that you will face problems as a caretaker prime
    minister?
    
    A: Why should I? There is no concept of a caretaker government. Ours
    is a full-fledged Government. We are not here just for TV cameras and
    social functions. Even the President has made it clear in the past
    that such governments have full powers to deal with official work.
    
    Q: But what will happen to the CTBT and other international treaties
    which are to be signed in the near future? Will you proceed on these
    fronts?
    
    A: We will face some difficulties, I am sure. If there was a
    Parliament we could have struck a consensus on these issues. But if
    elections are delayed, it may be highly improper to commit ourselves?
    
    Q: But can't you call an all-party meeting and come to an agreement?
    
    A: We will try that as well. But I don't have much hopes since we are
    in the midst of a do-or-die election.
    
    Q: Did you really expect to lose merely by one vote?
    
    A: No, we did not think the voting would go this way I don't think
    anybody did. The BSP had declared on the floor of the House that it
    would abstain. And we don't normally have chief ministers attending
    Parliament and voting!
    
    Q: In retrospect, do you think it was a blunder to align with
    Jayalalitha and concede her unreasonable demands?
    
    A: I must tell you that if we had indeed conceded her demands, I doubt
    if she would have broken from us.
    
    Q: You could have saved your government by sacrificing George
    Fernandes as defence minister. Why didn't you do it?
    
    A: Sacrificing George Fernandes would have amounted to punishing him
    for something he is not guilty of. 
    
    Q: Your opponents were able to mobilise themselves to pull you down.
    That they failed later Is another thing. How come you failed to nail
    them?
    
    A: There was a conspiracy against us. They came together to bring my
    government down because we started to do well. They were afraid of our
    growing popularity. They had not expected a good budget from us. Our
    initiatives on Pakistan shook them up badly.
    
    Q: Yet, there was total inaction on the Bofors Issue? Why did you
    dither on granting permission to the CBI to begin prosecution?
    
    A: We gave permission for the prosecution of S.K. Bhatnagar before our
    government fell. We also wrote to the President requesting him to
    grant permission for launching a case against Madhavsinh Solanki.
    
    Q: Where does it rest now?
    
    A: With Rashtrapatiji.
    
    Q: Will you remind the President once again about Solanki?
    
    A: Yes we will do it soon.
    
    Q: Do you think the BJP Is geared for the polls when It has failed to
    exploit the current situation to Its advantage?
    
    A: The BJP is not a party dependent on a single individual nor is it
    tied to the apron strings of a family. It is an organisation of nearly
    two crore people. Today the situation is one of advantage BJP. We can
    only improve on our previous tally. Add to this the strength of our
    allies and friendly parties, and you will get a clear picture of our
    potential.
    
    Q: There is a belief that Advani's tenure as home minister has been
    controversial, that he would have been better as the party president.
    
    A: I think Advani has done an excellent job as home minister. Earlier,
    as party president, he proved himself to be an able organiser. He is
    an asset both in Government and the party.
    
    Q. Would you now like him to shift to the party and run an effective
    campaign for your victory?
    
    A: As you know, it has already been announced that he will head the
    election campaign committee.
    
    Q: But don't you feel that the party has let you down by not actively
    supporting the government and helping you deal with allies?
    
    A: (Pauses) To some extent the party could have done much more,
    particularly in dealing with the allies. The BJP didn't try to learn
    the lessons of coalition politics.
    
    Q: Is that the reason that the parties are supporting you and not the
    BJP?
    
    A: It is not like that. But I must confess this election is not going
    to be easy. It is going to be a dirty election. I hope I will be able
    to prevent this trend.
    
    Q: Would you now like to enter elections as a morcha or a front rather
    than as the BJP?
    
    A: We are thinking of a national alliance and also of a joint
    campaigning. These are details that are yet to be worked out. Ideally,
    the alliance should contest this election on a joint platform, on the
    basis of the National Agenda for Governance.
    
    Q: If you are going to contest on a common manifesto, will the BJP
    drop issues like Article 370, Common Civil Code and Ayodhya?
    
    A: These are not even there on our National Agenda for Governance. And
    they will not be included in the manifesto or common minimum
    programme.
    
    Q: What will your slogan for the coming election be?
    
    A: There are many. And there is one that everyone is talking about.
    Even Jyoti Basu has remarked on it. Earlier I always believed that the
    videshi vs swadeshi debate would never take off. But now it is being
    discussed at every platform. Suggestions have been made to amend the
    constitution to debar those not born in India from holding offices of
    the president, vice-president, prime minister and even the chief
    justice of India. But my fear is such a debate will not be healthy.
    Bahut soch soch ke bol raha hoon mein (I am choosing my words very
    carefully).
    
    Q: Did you enjoy your tenure In office? Or do you think It was a
    mistake getting entangled with 20 allies?
    
    A: The prime minister's office is not something that one enjoys.
    
    Q: Are you still firm on your resolve of not contesting another
    election?
    
    A: (Pauses, then laughs) Now I am being reminded, "You have not
    completed your five-year term. If you had, we would have spared you."
    I have to be a member of the House for the remaining four years. So
    here I am, back in the field.
    



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