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We sleep well Mr Sebastian, thank you

A Surya Prakash
The Pioneer
July 28, 1999


    Title: We sleep well Mr Sebastian, thank you
    Author: A Surya Prakash
    Publication: The Pioneer
    Date: July 28, 1999
    
    It is well over a year since India became a nuclear state but there
    are no signs yet of the Western world, which lives under the
    protective cover of NATO's nuclear umbrella, coming to terms with the
    world's largest democracy acquiring its weapons of deterrence.
    
    Though there are signs of a thaw in Indo-American relations in the
    post-Kargil phase and many of America's NATO allies have begun making
    pro-India noises, a substantial part of the White world is still
    uneasy with the presence of the Brown Sahib in their cosy little nuke
    club. The most recent evidence of this is available in the Hardtalk
    interviews of Foreign Minister Jaswant Singh and Defence Minister
    George Fernandes by Tim Sebastian of the BBC.
    
    Self-respecting Indians would find Mr Sebastian's crude posturing in
    both these programmes rather revolting. But they must see it and
    suffer it if only to understand the prevailing attitudes in Europe's
    racist underbelly. For example, Mr Sebastian asked both the Indian
    ministers if they "sleep well at night" after turning India into a
    nuclear-weapons state!
    
    Even more extraordinary was the childish question that he posed to
    both of them: "How many bombs do you need to sleep well at night-10,
    20, 30, 100, 500,1000?" Both the ministers seemed dismayed by the
    man's superciliousness but kept their cool and told him that this was
    not a matter that they would discuss with him. Since both of them
    refused to put a number on it, we do not know how many bombs have
    ensured good sleep for a billion Indians, but we do know that Mr
    Sebastian has been "sleeping well" for many decades now under the NATO
    defence umbrella that includes over 10,000 nuclear warheads and
    thousands of missiles to deliver them across the globe. In fact, the
    British alone have enough in their basement to blow up this world many
    times over and this has been giving security-conscious Indians many
    sleepless nights for a long time. Actually, it is only after May 11,
    1998, that people in the sub-continent have begun to catch up with
    their sleep! That is why Mr Jaswant Singh was forced to say: "Please
    don't lecture us."
    
    Mr Sebastian's lack of balance and depth came through quite often in
    the programme. For example, he told both ministers that India was
    trying to climb up the nuclear mountain while the others were trying
    to climb down. Mr Jaswant Singh had to tell him more than once that he
    was factually incorrect. The Minister reminded him that only last
    April, NATO had reiterated the need to retain its nuclear arsenal.
    Stranger still was Mr Sebastian's poor understanding of the Kashmir
    problem. He sought to harass Mr Singh for close to ten minutes on
    India's human rights record on the basis of some dubious reports put
    out by Amnesty International. According to him, the Indian Army has
    for years been indulging in torture, rape and summary execution of the
    people of Jammu and Kashmir. If this is so, it is indeed a major scoop
    because India's free Press, which has always been critical and
    unsparing, has never got scent of such atrocities in this border
    state.
    
    Further, Mr Sebastian, it appeared, was unaware of the fact that India
    had a Human Rights Commission headed by a venerable, no-nonsense judge
    like Justice MN Venkatachaliah. Nor did he know that police and
    security agencies in the country dread the prospect of an inquiry by
    this watchdog panel. Needless to say that Mr Sebastian seemed
    blissfully ignorant of the central problem in the State of Jammu &
    Kashmir-the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children by
    the hordes of Islamic terrorists who are being sent in by Pakistan for
    over a decade. They cross the Line of Control, hide in the forests,
    make frequent forays into human habitations and summarily execute
    innocent people. Two such incidents, which resulted in the senseless
    killing of 30 people, occurred around the time the BBC was recording
    these interviews. Every such incident is widely reported by television
    networks, including the BBC, the world over but Mr Sebastian made no
    mention of it in either of his interviews. On the other hand, he was
    most disturbed by the alleged hamhanded treatment of terrorists by the
    Indian Army.
    
    Both the ministers remained admirably cool in the face of Mr
    Sebastian's bullying tactics. In fact such was their poise that they
    succeeded in unsettling the interviewer, who, with pre-determination
    and desperation was trying to live up to his "Hardtalk" image. When he
    realised that he was unable to intimidate the ministers, Mr Sebastian
    began arguing with them. This was much in evidence during the Jaswant
    Singh interview when Mr Sebastian kept firing questions without giving
    Mr Singh a chance to respond. It happened so often that it left
    viewers wondering whether Mr Sebastian was competing for airtime with
    the interviewee!
    
    But even such low quality TV journalism has its uses. Every journalism
    school in India must procure a copy of this tape in order to teach
    students how not to conduct an interview. This 30-minute tape will
    help teachers dispense with hours of lectures in order to teach the
    "Dont's" in TV interviewing. Among them are: One, do not compete with
    the guest and try to grab half the airtime. Two, do not project
    yourself or advertise your views but draw out the interviewee and get
    him or her to talk on issues. Three, do not see yourself as some kind
    of a pugilist and constantly enter into arguments with the person you
    are interviewing. This is childish and uncivil. Four, pose critical
    and uncomfortable questions but never be rude or crude. Five, do not
    begin an interview without adequate homework and research. Six, even
    if you think that you are God's gift to this world because of your
    place of birth or whatever, do not carry such baggage into the studio.
    
    The Jaswant Singh interview should also silence a lot of sceptics who
    doubt the Vajpayee Government's ability to direct foreign policy.
    Hopefully, it will dampen the spirits of some so-called foreign policy
    experts who are currently hanging around 10, Janpath and constantly
    whining about "India's failures". Some of them sound like apologists
    for Pakistan when they say that the G-8 Summit Resolution on the
    Kargil conflict went against India because it did not name Pakistan as
    the aggressor or when they argue that Mr Clinton's assurance to Mr
    Nawaz Sharif that he would take personal interest in the Indo-Pak
    peace process amounts to "internationalising" the Kashmir issue. Mr
    Jaswant Singh is undoubtedly the most credible and articulate
    spokesman India has had in a long time. Within a matter of just 12
    months and almost single-handedly, Mr Singh has got the Americans, the
    Chinese and several others to re-examine their policies vis-a-vis
    India. This is no mean achievement, and no amount of nitpicking by the
    Natwar Singhs of the world is going to obscure the truth. For a long
    time now, friends and fellow travellers of the Congress party have
    dominated the foreign policy scene and not all of them are gifted with
    clarity and articulation. As a result, India has often been
    represented by ministers and experts who fumble and mumble their way
    through interviews. Mr Jaswant Singh's "Hardtalk" performance sets new
    standards and the Congress party and all others who claim or aspire to
    speak for India must make honest efforts to measure up to that.
    
    Thus, despite the obvious bias and lack of balance, there is something
    to be gained from Mr Sebastian's labours. Further, from a long term
    point of view, it will not be a bad idea to have him in our midst more
    often because that is one sure way of knowing the hopes, fears and
    prejudices of the British hoi polloi.
    



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