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Publication: www.memri.org
Date: January 13, 2004
URL: http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD64204
Interview with Algerian Terror Leader
Associated with Al-Qa'ida
The Arabic-language daily Al-Hayat
published an interview with Nabil Sahrawi, also known as Abu Ibrahim Mustafa,
a leader of the Salafi Group for Da'wa and Fighting in Algeria. This group
has been linked with Al-Qa'ida. Prior to publication, the interview, which
is Sahrawi's first, was posted on Islamist websites.
At the beginning of the interview,
Sahrawi tells about his organization, which was founded in early 1999,
and states that it supplanted the Armed Islamic Group. According to Sahrawi,
his group was formed after the Armed Islamic Group was taken over by Antar
Zawabiri, who diverted it from its previous path. The following are excerpts
from the interview:(1)
Who's Killing Whom?
"Question: 'In Algeria, there was
a great debate over the question of who is behind the massacres of innocents.
Is there an answer to the well-known question in Algeria of who is killing
whom?'
"Sahrawi: 'The Salafi Group for
Da'wa and Fighting thinks that the Algerian people is a Muslim people which
according to religious law must not be harmed, in blood or property, and
that anyone who kills it or plunders its property is carrying out something
that Allah has forbidden. The massacres of innocent and defenseless people
are abhorrent crimes to which no Muslim who attests 'There is no God but
Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah' can agree.'
"There are two types of people who
carry out massacres: The first type are [the members] of [Antar] Zawabiri's
group, who accuse [society] of unbelief, and they are like the Khawarej,(2)
and they barely exist in the field. The second type is the [Algerian] regime,
which stands behind most of the massacres. There are some motives causing
the regime to carry out these massacres, including intimidating the people
in order to prevent them from supporting the Mujahideen..."
The Rulers of Muslim Lands are Apostates
"Question: 'Several times, the Algerian
press has revealed contacts between your group and the regime. What is
the extent of the truth of these reports? Does the Salafi Group for Da'wa
and Fighting believe in a solution by means of negotiation and dialogue
with the regime?'
"Sahrawi: 'The rulers of the Muslim
lands today are a gang of apostates [and] criminals, the most evil creatures
created on the face of the earth, whose crimes are known to all, and they
are a paradigm of treachery, deceit, misleading, and repression. How many
commitments have they given their people, only to then fill their graveyards
and prisons with them? They have replaced Shari'a law, and they rule Muslims
with the laws of Europe and America. They have shed blood and violated
the religious prohibitions. They have wasted the property of the Muslims
on forbidden things. All that interested them was their bellies and their
enslavement to the West. They are not [protected] by any pact. Anyone who
wants a lesson [on the results] of dialogue with the apostates, let them
learn the lesson of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the lesson of the
Islamic Front of Salvation in Algeria ... and so on.
"The Salafi Group for Da'wa and
Fighting is fighting the regime in Algiers because of its unbelief and
apostasy... Fighting the apostates takes precedence over fighting others
from among the original infidels, and the punishment of the apostates is
harsher than that [of the original infidels], both in this world and in
the hereafter. Pacts must not be formed with these rulers; they must not
be given security; there must be no reconciliation with them, and there
must be no truce with them. We will accept from them either repentance
or the sword..."
The Al-Qa'ida Connection
"Question: 'Some see your most recent
communiqué as an announcement of allegiance to the Al-Qa'ida organization.
What do you think about Sheikh Osama bin Laden? What is the truth about
your connection to Al-Qa'ida and the other Jihad organizations in the world?
"Sahrawi: '... Our connection to
Al-Qa'ida and the other Jihad organizations in the world is based on two
things:'(3)
"First, the operation of the Salafi
Group for Da'wa and Fighting in the realm of preaching and Jihad is an
operation integrated with that of the other groups, because as noted in
the [organization's] charter ... the Salafi Group for Da'wa and Fighting
is a phased means aimed ultimately at establishing a group of Muslims -
the Caliphate - and it sees this as a sacred goal that all Muslims must
strive to attain...
"Second, one of our goals is also
to educate the Muslims about the principle that loyalty to Islam and to
the Sunna must take precedence over loyalty to all the other frameworks...
The Muslim is the brother of the Muslim, even if their countries are distant
from each other. Every Muslim is entitled to the support [of other Muslims]...
We support those who support Allah, His Prophet, and the believers, and
we act with hostility towards those who act with hostility towards Allah
and His Prophet, even if he is from among the closest of the close."
Response to Inclusion on U.S. Terror
List
"Question: 'After the September
11 raid, America put you on the list of organizations it is fighting. What
is your response to this?'
"Sahrawi: 'We classified ourselves
even before America classified us. The world is divided into two parts:
the part of belief, and the part of unbelief and falsehood. There is no
third part. Anyone who desires Islam and a regime in accordance with the
Qur'an is classified by the infidels on their list of enemies and opponents...
Anyone who says 'There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger
of Allah,' is on this list, and his turn will come, whether he is armed
or not...
"Question: 'Is there a final message
you want to send to the Algerian Muslim people in these difficult times...?'
"Sahrawi: 'The conflict in the world
today is a conflict between belief and unbelief. The war in Palestine,
in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Algeria, in Chechnya, and in the Philippines
is one war. This is a war between the camp of Islam and the camp of the
Cross, to which the Americans, Zionists, Jews, their apostate allies, and
others belong.'
"The goal of this war, which they
falsely called a war on terror, is to prevent the Muslims from establishing
an Islamic state whose regime will be in accordance with the Qur'an and
the Sunna of the Prophet, and which will constitute a source of pride and
strength for the Muslims. America and its allies the Jews, the Christians,
and the apostates will not cease their war on Islam before they remove
the last Muslim from his religion and bring him into apostasy. We must
be wary of this terrible plot that the enemies of Islam aspire to realize.
"During this time, Jihad is one
of the greatest personal commandments. Every Muslim must know that defending
Islam and the Muslims in this war is an obligation incumbent upon him,
with his soul, his money, and his tongue. Support for Muslims is an obligation.
The Islamic State will not arise through means of slogans, demonstrations,
parties, and elections, but through blood, body parts, and [sacrifice of]
lives..."
Endnotes:
(1) Al-Hayat (London), January
9, 2004.
(2) The term "Khawarej," a reference
to those who rebelled against the heirs of the Prophet Muhammad in the
seventh century, is used today to condemn groups such as Zawabiri's as
rebellious religious radicals.
(3) Ellipses at the beginning of
this paragraph appear in the original Arabic.